El Ministerio Hispano/Latino / Hispanic Ministry
Arquidiócesis de/Archdiocese of
Las Parroquias en/Parishes in
Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe / Our Lady of Guadalupe,
Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun. bilingue , & en español
Iglesia de St. James / St. Frances-St. James,
P./ Fr. Miguel Betancourt, P/Fr. Alberto Curbelo & Eva Vargas, Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.,
Sagrado Corazón / Sacred Heart,
Misa/Mass: sábado/Sat. and dom./Sun.
Las Parroquias en /Parishes in
Sagrado Corazón de Jesús - Incarnation, 3800 Pleasant Ave.S., Mpls 55408 Tel: 612/ 874-7169 P./Fr. Kevin McDonough (after 7/1/08) y Dcn. Carl Valdez
Misas/Mass: sábado/Sat., 6:30 p.m. y domingo/Sun., 11:15 a.m., 1 p.m. y 7 p.m.
Martes/Tues., miércoles/Wed., y jueves/Thurs,
Iglesia de San Esteban / St. Stephen,
P./Fr. Joseph Williams Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun., &
Santo Rosario / Holy Rosary,
Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun., y
Ss. Cirilo y Metódio / Ss. Cyril & Methodius,
Misa/Mass: Domingo/Sun., 7:30 a.m. y 10:30 a.m.
Ascensión / Ascension 1723 Bryant Ave. N, Mpls (norte) 55411 Tel: 612/ 522-4354
P./Fr. Tim Norris Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.,
Otras parroquias del area / Metro Area Parishes:
Asunción/Assumption (sede de Richfield, Bloomington y Eden Prairie)
Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun., &
Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.: 2:30 p.m.
Los Ángeles de la Guardia / Guardian Angels, 218 W. 2nd Street, Chaska, 55318 Tel: 952/ 227-4085 P./Fr. Paul Jarvis & Virginia Koehn Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.,
P./Fr. Tim Norris (after
San Enrique / St. Henry,
P./Fr. Timoteo Rudolphi Misa/Mass: sábado/Sat.,
Carmen Dean Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.,
Sta. Odilia / St. Odilia,
P. James Adams, principal celebrant, Fernando La Hoz
Misa/Mass: domingo / Sun.
San Alfonso / St. Alphonsus ,
Divina Misericordia / Divine Mercy, 4 SW 2nd Ave, Faribault, 55021 Tel: 507/ 334-2266, Ext. 16
P./Fr. Fernando Ortega (after 7/1/08) y Zulema Nieves Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun., 11:30 a.m. (en la Iglesia de Sagrado Corazón)
P./Fr. Chris Shofner Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.,
P./Fr. Denny Dempsey Misa/Mass: domingo/Sun.,
Misa/Mass: 2 nd Domingo de mes/Sun. of month,
San Jorge / St. George,
Fr. Ralph Huar Misa/Mass: 2x/mo. (1st and 3rd Sudays / domingos,
Fr. Bill Bueche, C. Sr R and Fr. Patrick Foley, TOR, principle celebrants
Anita (Anne) Attea, Coordinator for Hispanic Ministry
328 W Kellogg Blvd, St Paul, MN 55102 Tel: 651-290-1644
Estela Villagrán Manancero, Home Mission Coordinator
(Address is same as above ) Tel: 651-290-1639
Norberto (Rico) Sotelo, Pastoral Juvenil
(Address is same as above ) Tel: 651-357-6818
Zulma Arroyo, Chancery contact
226 Summit Avenue St. Paul, 55102 Tel: 651/ 291-4423
Twenty-three parishes, over ten percent of the total in the Archdiocese, are offering Spanish language Masses. Last year, the number was 14 parishes.
Ray, I have to ask the question: how many parishes in the Archdiocese are offering the Mass in Latin? And by dividing up the parish congregation based on language, are we really doing the Universal Church any favors?
Well, the Motu Proprio was responsible for a 100% increase in the number of parishes regularly saying Mass in Latin: from one to two.
And Spanish Masses only went from 14 to 23, a 64% increase. So Latin is leaving Spanish in the dust.
You may be correct, Mitchell.
Today's immigrants are far wealthier and far more mobile than the immigrants of 100 or more years ago.
My poor Polish ancestors had to scrape and struggle and learn English just to survive.
What with jet travel, radio, satellite broadcasts of univision and Latin American broadcasts, reasonably priced telephone conversations with Mom, I don't know if the assimilation will mirror that of the past.
My Irish ancestors only rarely wrote a letter home.
While statistically, a great many immigrants did return home after saving up enough money to marry or purchase some land, that wasn't the experience of the families of the genealogists I know.
I attended a Mass on the Feast Day of Our Lady of Guadalupe at the Cathedral a few years ago. Archbishop Flynn was the celebrant and gave the homily in passable Spanish (broad American pronunciation) and English. In it he declared that the American Church will soon become a Spanish language Church.
The average age of the attendees at that Mass at the Cathedral was probably mid-20s.
But in defense of the Universal Church, in my short lifetime here in the Twin Cities I have witnessed the virtual death of the once great Syttende Mai (May 16, Norwegian Constitution Day - the #1 Google hit is for Stoughton, WI) and Svenskarnas Dag (June 22, Swedish Heritage Day - #1 is Mpls) celebrations that were huge in the 60s and 70s.
So maybe in 100 years, tacos and enchiladas will be a novelty like pierogis and corn beef and cabbage.
You hardly hear about them any more.
I do cringe at the suggestion that the American Church is becoming a Spanish language Church, although I don't doubt the accuracy of the statement.
But I continue to think that no good can come from this Balkanization of the United States and its culture, nor do I think that it is in the best interests of either our culture or the Church to persist in this kind of liturgical dualism.
A prime reason why more immigrants aren't assimilating is that we provide no incentive for them to do so. We enable them at every step of the way, from signs in stores to legal documents to the liturgy. This kind of cultural dualism hasn't worked in the Balkan states, it doesn't work in Quebec, and it won't work here. What it will mean is the death of the uniquely American culture.
I have no objection to retaining one's cultural heritage, as long as the understand one of the prime requisites of living in America is that one becomes part of American culture. If, in fact, such a thing exists anymore.
I agree that business and governments are making it easy for immigrants of all countries
not to assimilate.
I would imagine that Cubans in Miami and Hispanics in Southern California and maybe Puerto Ricans in NY might find it particularly easy not to assimilate.
I wonder how diligently the Citizenship Requirements are enforced?
Applicants for naturalization must be able to read, write, speak, and understand words in ordinary usage in the English language.
Applicants exempt from this requirement are those who on the date of filing:
* have been residing in the United States subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for at least 15 years and are over 55 years of age;
* have been residing in the United States subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for at least 20 years and are over 50 years of age; or
*have a medically determinable physical or mental impairment, where the impairment affects the applicant’s ability to learn English.
Unfortunately, in this kind of discussion, the answer won't really be known until three or four generations have come and gone.
But again, there is no doubt that the pressure to assimilate in this first generation is not near as great as it was for immigrants 100 or more years ago.
Mitchell and Ray: Great conversation here.
It could be argued that, yes, we have always been a multi-cultural society and a multi-cultural Church.
However, not only have we minimized the necessity of commonality of language in our society, we have minimized (we could say destroyed) the commonality of language in our Catholic Churches in the U.S. as well.
Archbishop John Ireland also presided over a large multi-cultural immigrant Catholic community during his tenure. However, he discouraged multi-language churches in this Archdiocese. In fact, he cracked down very hard on them.
Yes, he wanted the new Catholics to learn English. However, keep also in mind the language of the Mass was Latin in those days.
So, today, we are even more fractured as a society and as a Church. We have lost our common language of Latin (and maybe it's coming back but we don't seem to be in any big hurry). We are also losing our common language of English (and seem to treat that with a big yawn).
At Mass the stakes are higher. Sure, the Eucharist is the Eucharist no matter where you are, but it would be nice (since we are supposed to be the One, True, Universal Church) to be able to go anywhere in the world and feel not only one with God but one with our brothers and sisters in language.
We are the Tower of Babel with an alternate ending.
I did not read all the comments because they are way too long.
BUT - when I grew up, St. Ambrose was Italian language as well as was Holy Redeemer in St. Paul. St Casmir's was Polish, Sacred Heart was German - in order to attend school at Sacred Heart the head of household - dad - had to be German. And I attended other churches who conducted para-liturgical ceremonies (devotions, novenas) in their respective ethnic group's language. Yes, they also had English Masses when the Mass changed to the vernacular - while they retained the ethnic laguage for vernacular Masses in Italian and Poilish, and so on. Because - whether Ireland liked it or not, himself a suspect of Americanism, these parishes were essentially ethnic parishes.
Now days, all of us foreigners have been inculturated - yet the new immigrants who continue to pour into this country on a daily basis, have not been.
I'm really out on a limb here - but if we as native Americans are afraid we will all be speaking Spanish someday, or are somehow loosing our country - imagine what the original Native Americans thought when they were forced to speak English nd assimilate to European ways.
With all due respect, Terry
Terry: You make a great point but I think the commonality (ha!) of this thread is that all of us agree that at some point we made a decision as a culture (whether consciously or not) to stop "forcing" English. Some of that fear may be due to treatment of Native cultures regarding language.
I kept it brief. I don't want you to be overwhelmed! LOL!
It is the first time I wrote into this Blog, I'm a naturalized citizen living in Puerto Rico, so you may know that my first language is spanish. I don't know what the issue is all about... in many countries where foreing population is considerable the Church offers Mass in different languages. About the use of Latin, I consider myself a loving person for this language, it's beautiful (also I graduated in Philosophy). But we have to be realists: the majority of the people do not know anything of it. Also and most important; GOD DOES NOT SPEAK ANY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE AND DO NOT VALUES MORE THE LATIN THAN THE ENGLISH OR THE ENGLISH THAN THE SPANISH.... what HE considers is the language of the heart.
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The only "issue" in my original post is the fact that there are many Spanish speaking Catholics in our archdiocese. I think something like 25 parishes have at least one Mass in Spanish.
Twenty five years ago, there might have been one or two parishes offering Spanish language Mass.
You're probably not aware where I live, but it is in Minneapolis, Minnesota, up by the Canadian border. There never used to be many non-English speaking Hispanics here. The issue is, times have really changed.
You say that the "majority of the people don't know anything about Latin" and therefore we shouldn't offer the Mass in Latin.
Well, There are 220 parishes in our archdiocese. The vast majority of the people don't know anything about Spanish. What will Spanish-speaking Catholics do if we stop offering the Mass in Spanish?
The Church is universal. Besides English, Spanish and Latin, the Mass is also offered here in Vietnamese, Korean, Hmong, Polish and in American Sign Language.
Why can't those who want the Mass in Latin be able to do so?
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