A MENʼS FORUM FOR CATHOLIC APOLOGETICS
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf
On the Liturgy
Tonight, Tuesday, October 14th
6:30pm for Social (beverages and appetizers)
Dinner at 7:00pm,
Basement of St. Augustine Church in South St. Paul
Total cost for the evening is $12 at the door
JUST PAST 3RD ST. NORTH
FROM THE EAST SIDE
FOR DIRECTIONS TO ST. AUGUSTINE CHURCH CALL 651-451-1212 OR GO TO
aotmclub.com , E-MAIL US AT firstname.lastname@example.org
“Why men only?”
Most parish events, the only men that show up are husbands, dragged by their wives. The AOTM, with a ten year history, regularly draws anywhere from 100 to 250 or more men, once a month, eight times a year.
These men are of all ages, from many parishes, and are possessed of many opinions and they are not afraid to express them or ask probing questions of the speakers. Not a few priests and seminarians (who get in free)are willing participants.
One of the major attractions, besides dynamic speakers like Father Z, is a menu laden with “guy food”, stuffed chock full of calories. No leafy arugula or jello salads. Attendees are asked to not bring their diet books and calorie-counters. Bountiful refreshing beverages are also provided.
The cost of the CDs of the evening’s presentation is a nominal $5.
please check the web site there are spelling errors
I'm not jealous at all.
That would be a deadly sin.
I'd better go to confession.
Not to worry, Laura, "Jealousy" is not among the deadlies!
# 3 The sins
* 3.1 Lust (Latin, luxuria)
* 3.2 Gluttony (Latin, gula)
* 3.3 Greed (Latin, avaritia)
* 3.4 Sloth (Latin, acedia)
* 3.5 Wrath (Latin, ira)
* 3.6 Envy (Latin, invidia)
* 3.7 Pride (Latin, superbia)
Although I suppose you might border on "gluttony" and "envy" if you are not up on your dictionary definitions.
[Wikipedia] Like greed, envy may be characterized by an insatiable desire; they differ, however, for two main reasons. First, greed is largely associated with material goods, whereas envy may apply more generally. Second, those who commit the sin of envy resent that another person has something they perceive themselves as lacking, and wish the other person to be deprived of it. Dante defined this as "love of one's own good perverted to a desire to deprive other men of theirs." In Dante's Purgatory, the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire, because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low. Aquinas described envy as "sorrow for another's good".
The word "jealousy" is frequently used to describe what is more properly envy, fixation on what someone else has. Envy and jealousy are distinct in their object (Goldie, 2000, p. 221). Jealousy concerns something one has and is afraid of losing [often, a relationship], while envy concerns something one does not have and either he wants to acquire (nonmalicious envy) or he wants the other(s) not to have (malicious envy) (Parrot, 2001, p. 309).
When dealing with the "deadlies" and the possible loss of your immortal soul to the netherworld, it is important to have an unabridged dictionary (or Google) handy.
One day we'll get 'em, Crazy Mama!
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