Man sues Crosiers religious order, alleging sexual abuse 20+ years ago
A former Minnesotan filed suit Monday against a Roman Catholic religious order and a former member who he says sexually molested him more than 20 years ago.Robert Skjonsby, 40, of Port Orchard, Wash., said that it was only last year that he was able to admit to himself and his wife that he was abused from 1980 to 1983 while he was a parishioner at Sacred Heart Church in Wahkon, Minn. StarTribune PioneerPressKARE11
Are you so sure that there won't be adultery issues?
Will a priest's wife be able to work as a nightclub hostess?
Will the parish have to up their contributions so that the Priest will be able to support his family and send his children to college? Will the priest buy his own house, or will the parish increase the size of the rectory?
What will your reaction be when you call the rectory to have Father come over because your Mom is dying and he replies, "Gee, sorry, I promised I'd take the kids to Disneyland today."
What if the Priest's wife has a great job at General Mills and they want to transfer her to Honolulu? Will the parish have to pay for the occasional trip for Father to visit his family, or will he have to quit being a priest and apply in Honolulu?
85% of all the sexual abuse involves men and older boys. I don't think marriage will affect that.
NO, I'm not 100% sure that there will be adultery issues, but I can almost guarantee that it would be reduced considerably. Priests don't have access to women, so why would they get in "trouble" with women?? So they "use" what they have access to.
I think the Priest wife can do what she wants to do with her life as long as it's in line with What the Lord wants for her and if it will glorify God. Being a nightclub hostess could glorify God depending on her motives in her heart.
Who cares if the parish has to up their contributions so that he can support his family. from what I hear of the Catholic church, the Priest isn't hurting financially anyway and I'm sure on what they already make, they could easily support others as well. I think if the priest wants to buy his own house he should... even now he should if he wants to... why shouldn't he? It's more beneficial to him in the long run to do it that way anyway.
First of all, he wouldn't shirk his duties when someone in his parish is dying... PLUS, family comes first anyway... I would understand because that's how I live my life. I am a Pastor to Youth and I put my family first and people will ALWAYS respect a person for doing that. All these things wouldnt be an issue if they were aloud to marry. It's a great concept and all that they can devote their whole lives to God and His people, but he is still human and has human desires... even sexual ones. And without the strength of Christ, they can not resist those urges so they find ways to "make it happen". Priests aren't any different than you in regards to being human. There's nothing about them that make them above sin.
If his wife was transfered to honolulu... like any other married couple, they would discuss the options and pick the best one...even if they thought that the best one was going to hawaii... he would obviously go with his family. staying behind is a rediculous idea.
And yes, Marriage would affect the decline in sexual abuse. Like I said before, he woudn;t have the need to find sexual release from elsewhere if he had a wife to help him with that. And also, if the priest is gay, then you have a whole other problem.
Honestly, let's think about this a little. I know that it's always been that way in the catholic church that they can;'t get married... but also look at the Protestant church... they have their fair share of issues, but the issue of homosexual activity between the Pastor and little boys is almost, if not already 100% nill. There are other issues of course, we are all human and carnal and without the power and strength of the Holy Spirit in our lives, we can do nothing. We need to abide in Christ and He will abide in us --- John 15:5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
I do not think that catholic church should allow the priest to marry. But the word missed in the article is alleged, I myself was a vivtim at a young age of sexual abuse (not form a priest but my own brother and there is not a day that I would be able to forget it although it has been forgiven. How can some one forget about the abuse for 25 years, did the "vivtim" pull a name out of the hat? If it did happen I am truly sorry but in another article about the same incidents the vitim says that there was increased medical problems and expenses so did he forget about it or did it cause him additional expenses. I feel it is time that the Catholic church stand up and stop being the scape goat for everyones problems. We has people need to take responsiblity for ourselves.
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4 Comments:
At 8:53 PM,
Bry... said…
Catholic Priests should be able to get married. I guarantee that the sexual abuse would drop 100%... and yet, no one sees this.
At 6:25 AM,
Ray from MN said…
Are you so sure that there won't be adultery issues?
Will a priest's wife be able to work as a nightclub hostess?
Will the parish have to up their contributions so that the Priest will be able to support his family and send his children to college? Will the priest buy his own house, or will the parish increase the size of the rectory?
What will your reaction be when you call the rectory to have Father come over because your Mom is dying and he replies, "Gee, sorry, I promised I'd take the kids to Disneyland today."
What if the Priest's wife has a great job at General Mills and they want to transfer her to Honolulu? Will the parish have to pay for the occasional trip for Father to visit his family, or will he have to quit being a priest and apply in Honolulu?
85% of all the sexual abuse involves men and older boys. I don't think marriage will affect that.
At 12:37 PM,
Bry... said…
NO, I'm not 100% sure that there will be adultery issues, but I can almost guarantee that it would be reduced considerably. Priests don't have access to women, so why would they get in "trouble" with women?? So they "use" what they have access to.
I think the Priest wife can do what she wants to do with her life as long as it's in line with What the Lord wants for her and if it will glorify God. Being a nightclub hostess could glorify God depending on her motives in her heart.
Who cares if the parish has to up their contributions so that he can support his family. from what I hear of the Catholic church, the Priest isn't hurting financially anyway and I'm sure on what they already make, they could easily support others as well. I think if the priest wants to buy his own house he should... even now he should if he wants to... why shouldn't he? It's more beneficial to him in the long run to do it that way anyway.
First of all, he wouldn't shirk his duties when someone in his parish is dying... PLUS, family comes first anyway... I would understand because that's how I live my life. I am a Pastor to Youth and I put my family first and people will ALWAYS respect a person for doing that. All these things wouldnt be an issue if they were aloud to marry. It's a great concept and all that they can devote their whole lives to God and His people, but he is still human and has human desires... even sexual ones. And without the strength of Christ, they can not resist those urges so they find ways to "make it happen". Priests aren't any different than you in regards to being human. There's nothing about them that make them above sin.
If his wife was transfered to honolulu... like any other married couple, they would discuss the options and pick the best one...even if they thought that the best one was going to hawaii... he would obviously go with his family. staying behind is a rediculous idea.
And yes, Marriage would affect the decline in sexual abuse. Like I said before, he woudn;t have the need to find sexual release from elsewhere if he had a wife to help him with that. And also, if the priest is gay, then you have a whole other problem.
Honestly, let's think about this a little. I know that it's always been that way in the catholic church that they can;'t get married... but also look at the Protestant church... they have their fair share of issues, but the issue of homosexual activity between the Pastor and little boys is almost, if not already 100% nill. There are other issues of course, we are all human and carnal and without the power and strength of the Holy Spirit in our lives, we can do nothing. We need to abide in Christ and He will abide in us --- John 15:5
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
Anyway... God Bless
At 1:18 PM,
Anonymous said…
I do not think that catholic church should allow the priest to marry. But the word missed in the article is alleged, I myself was a vivtim at a young age of sexual abuse (not form a priest but my own brother and there is not a day that I would be able to forget it although it has been forgiven. How can some one forget about the abuse for 25 years, did the "vivtim" pull a name out of the hat? If it did happen I am truly sorry but in another article about the same incidents the vitim says that there was increased medical problems and expenses so did he forget about it or did it cause him additional expenses. I feel it is time that the Catholic church stand up and stop being the scape goat for everyones problems. We has people need to take responsiblity for ourselves.
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